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Frank Shamrock on the ‘Science’ of Fighting Cung Le
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Frank Shamrock analyzes Cung Le’s strengths and weaknesses, biomechanics and his visions of how he’ll beat Cung Le.
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zzzthaoster
May 22nd, 2010 at 1:56 pm
cung would beat shamrock worst this time, I believe now that cung knows what he can do and can’t do. jmo
BrendanTL
May 22nd, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Franks a sore loser, he still talks shit in his recent interviews, if they rematched, Cung would beat him worse, Cung is new to mma
UNVRSLGRTNZ
May 22nd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Cung is an “ok standup fighter?” If u say so Frankie… lol I think Cung’s weakness would be in his ground game… Rarely have I seen him on the ground with someon on top… These guys r both great fighters though… but Cung’s ability 2 take the initiave in fights is what paralyzes his opponents
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 22nd, 2010 at 2:42 pm
What does the word “sensei” mean? look it up Infusionlabs.
Ezekiel222
May 22nd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
I am well aware of the concepts of internal energy and external energy. As I have trained in Ba Gua and in the Shaolin Five Animals. And I agree that the mechanics of a large number of fighters are sloppy or completely off in the stand up portion of the fights. The grappling on the other hand is pretty proficient due to the high level of Judokas, BJJ, Shoot fighters, Freestyle and Greco roman wrestlers in MMA.
MysticNinjaJay
May 22nd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
I think that Frank Shamrock is a true Mixed Martial Artist. His knowledge of the fight game is immense. He was brought up as a submission fighter and learned striking from world class trainers earning him the reputation as the pioneer and prototype of Modern MMA. I think he analyzed Cung Le’s strengths and weaknesses well but he underestimated his striking ability.
MysticNinjaJay
May 22nd, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Georges St. Pierre agrees with Jeffery’s philosophy. He said that there are alot of fighters in MMA but few true Mixed Martial Artists. In order to be a high level Martial Artist you must be proficient in a discipline. Many MMA fighters are Jacks of all trades. But some of them like GSP, Machida, Anderson Silva etc. are complete fighters. True Martial Artists.
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 22nd, 2010 at 5:12 pm
It depends what arts they mix and their technical proficiency at them. I will explain more, and give examples of how strength can mask poor technique and excellent technique should be the main cornerstone. The power should be your center and not a cornerstone it should possess both the yin and the yang. I speak from experience, and don’t think I don’t have power, watch my videos with me in them, and you can see that.
Ezekiel222
May 22nd, 2010 at 5:56 pm
But my question still looms. Why aren’t some (notice I said some, because I know not all) proficient and great mixed martial artists, “martial artists”
Ezekiel222
May 22nd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
The side that falters more , due to fatigue ,is the side that usually fails when the time is most critical. Anaerobic Conditioning, Aerobic conditioning and strength are tools needed to help building a complete fighter. Thats what they are… tools. IMO the biggest hole in many fighters within MMA is striking and striking within the clinch (whether this is using clinches from muay thai, greco roman or trapping from Wing Chun).
Ezekiel222
May 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 pm
That makes absolutely no logical sense what you just said. If what you are saying, is that the time that I do not put into technique training will be the fall of me ( i am using myself as an example) then I can understand what your saying and getting at. But realize I said they are two of MULTIPLE aspects to combat. To deny physical prowess in a fight is to set yourself up for failure. This has been proven time and time again and not only in unarmed fighting but also in war as well.
Friedyellow
May 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
He sounds gay
Friedyellow
May 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 pm
He has taken too many head shots. Brain is affected
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 22nd, 2010 at 9:14 pm
If conditioning and strength are your cornerstone attributes for success, they will also be the cornerstone attributes in which you fail.
Ezekiel222
May 22nd, 2010 at 10:11 pm
isn’t real martial arts. There are strikers out there within the MMA world that are fantastic strikers, and not brawlers, such as Lyoto Machida, Anderson Silva, Andrews Nakahara, Mirko Filopovic, Thiago Alves, George St. Pierre, Vitor Belfort.
Ezekiel222
May 22nd, 2010 at 10:33 pm
So are you saying that these fighters have no skill or art? I would argue against that easily. Conditioning and strength are cornerstone attributes to being a successful martial artist. You need to emphasize cardiovascular conditioning and the multiple types of strength. But they are just two of the multiple aspects of combat. A significant number of battles, whether in unarmed or armed combat, are won and lost based on fatigue and exhaustion. But I guess from your previous statement, this
quickmantan
May 22nd, 2010 at 11:13 pm
frank shamrock is funny…. hahahahah just as funny as cung..
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 23rd, 2010 at 12:04 am
The emphasis is on Art and Skill. Not conditioning and strength. Quality martial arts has more dimensions than just what you see. Whether you “grapple” or not has nothing to do with technique and skill.
Ezekiel222
May 23rd, 2010 at 12:59 am
So only if you break forearms and aren’t a grappler then you aren’t a martial artist. The grammar of your posts confuses me.
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 23rd, 2010 at 1:41 am
How can you ask a question that was just explained?
Ezekiel222
May 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 am
How aren’t these guys ‘real’ martial artists?????
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 23rd, 2010 at 2:34 am
You got it. That was specific advice for Frank. I use to play the full contact point tourney game when Martial artist were real Martial Artist, Many a guys have had their forearms Broken from trying to block or fingers and wrists snapped from trying to grab a kick, or wrestlers, and newaza only fighters, heads smashed during takedown attempts. But to todays fighters credit, they are all excellent brawlers. Something to be said for that, I guess?
GeNeStRoNg
May 23rd, 2010 at 2:48 am
You have a point. Blocking just gives the opponent an advantage. If he kics and you blok with your shin. Your gonna be put off balance and he’s gonna hit you hard. Move and get him when he misses and spins.
JeffreyJamesLippold
May 23rd, 2010 at 3:25 am
Quit trying to block the KICKS! Just get out of there or learn some traditional ju-jutsu or combat tai chi kick takedowns!
dollarbillllz
May 23rd, 2010 at 3:46 am
hehe good one powrone, to bad i didn’t understand what ur trying to say, u write like u have a dick in ur mouth while ur talking.